Lilith ([info]lilithilien) wrote,
@ 2007-10-21 22:15:00

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Entry tags:[fandom] harry potter, [fandom] stargate atlantis, [fannish] fandom, [people] david hewlett ftw, [real life] blather, [writing] pimping my fic

I can't believe I'm glad the weekend's over!
Hope it's been a good weekend for everybody. Mine was kinda rough. It started off on a very high note with yet another viewing of SGA's "Doppelganger", which aside from some really odd OOC moments (since when does Rodney fear whales?) is quite possibly my favourite episode of the entire series. And that's saying a lot. Of course there are only the two of them in Shepherd's dream ... as if we didn't already know that.

Then yesterday was all aflutter with the news from JKR that Dumbles is a Big Gay Wizard. I'm a little surprised to see that some people are embracing this news with glee, thinking it'll spark a flurry of Dumbles/Grindy slash. My thought is that if you like that pairing, then write it -- regardless of whether JKR says it's okay or not. It's fanfic, after all!

My personal opinion on all this? I just really wish the woman would shut up. I think she's damaging her work and the whole notion of artistic integrity by going on like this. What's surprised me are the people argue that she had so much backstory that she has to spill it out like this (sorry, but no -- of course not every bit of her backstory can be written, but enough should come out to push the reader's mind in a certain direction. Like she did with the idea that Harry would be an Auror. Like she failed utterly to do in hitching up Neville and Hannah Abbott. She can't go back and fill in the blanks later). I've seen others who think we should just give her a break because gee weren't her books great (sorry, but a BIG no -- she should be held to the same standard as any other author is).

But for the most part, it seems my HP f-list is being pretty sane. And I haven't seen anybody proclaiming that this is a great step forward for gay rights or anything like that. Although that's certainly the impression you'd get from reading the non-HP portion of my f-list. Frankly, I'm a bit tired of people assuming that all HP fans think this is the greatest thing since sliced bread and telling us how we really should think about this issue. For every HP fan saying it's great news, there's another crying foul -- not just to this, but to every ditzy, contradictory pronouncement she's made since finishing the book.

I guess I'm feeling a little defensive today after my entire LJ f-list (where most of the non-HP folks still reside) decided to attack my newly adopted fandom because aren't we all just one homogeneous mass of JKR worshippers.

Sorry for the rant there. I have lots more to say about more of the ludicrous things she "revealed" in that interview (if you're interested, here's a transcription: Part 1 and Part 2) but I'll spare you. All I can say is I'll have what she's having.

Now, when I tell you that I've immersing myself in fandom to avoid the RL craziness that is my family, you'll understand just how bad things really are. :(

Finally, at 11:00 p.m. I'm starting to unwind. This picture helped immensely:


from LJ's verav


And I posted Chapter Six of Architects of Memory, right on schedule. Not sure if I can keep up this pace, work's picking up drastically, but I'll do my best.

Now it's time to sink into Farscape and knitting, and brace myself for Monday.


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Mwhahaha, David's a big silly!
[info]omarandjohnny
2007-10-22 03:14 am UTC (link)
Yeah, my flist has been going a tad bonkers with the Lavender Dumbles stuff this weekend, too. I dunno, I don't feel like I can really say too much, as I've not read the books. But, I do know enough to where it feels like she's taking the tragic, dead, queer guy route. Like I said, I dunno.

In other news, I'm surrounding you in great big rachie sized-huggles ;)

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Re: Mwhahaha, David's a big silly!
[info]lilithilien
2007-10-22 04:14 am UTC (link)
*wallows in the huggles*

Why haven't you read the books? They seriously are good stories, even if I don't think she's the best writer. Not saying you have to or anything, I'm just curious.

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Re: Mwhahaha, David's a big silly!
[info]omarandjohnny
2007-10-22 05:32 am UTC (link)
It's really dumb, actually. I just can't seem to sit down and read something that isn't:

A) Full of gore and violence
B) Full of graphic gay sex
C) All of the above

I can't even read humorous books anymore. As Gregg Araki would say, I blame society XD

I tried though, I got midway through the first one before my attention span brokeded in half. That counts for something, oui?

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Re: Mwhahaha, David's a big silly!
[info]lilithilien
2007-10-22 05:38 am UTC (link)
You're a corrupt little deviant (and that's why I love you).

And yeah, if you can't make it through the first one, then you might as well forget about it. Although if you ever have the chance to hear them read aloud (I definitely recommend Stephen Fry's version) they're worth it. There's some word play (especially in the first one) that really benefits from being read aloud.

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Re: Mwhahaha, David's a big silly!
[info]omarandjohnny
2007-10-22 06:19 am UTC (link)
I will definitely have to give that a shot, I've been listening to alot of Stephen King's work on CD, to see it from a different angle, and it is so much fun to be 'read to.' I think that's what I miss most about elementary school, Mrs. Zimmerman breaking into a chapter of The Westing Game on a Friday afternoon, that odd thrill of having someone lay out the landscape for you :)

And I am definitely getting a 'deviant' tattoo before I shuffle off this mortal coil, you mark my words! ::ev0l grin::

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Re: Mwhahaha, David's a big silly!
[info]lilithilien
2007-10-22 06:55 am UTC (link)
Send me your address, hon. I used to have it, but when my puter died I lost so much.

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[info]sdk
2007-10-22 03:24 am UTC (link)
I just posted about the big Dumbly!gay thing. I would go into it here, but its sort of exhausting. ;) Anyway, can totally see where you're coming from. Word on JKR shutting the hell up.

And squee! Now I'm going to relax and get caught up on your fic. *soexcited*

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[info]lilithilien
2007-10-22 04:15 am UTC (link)
Oh, I'll have to go check out your post! I think I might have to do it tomorrow, though, I'm a bit weary of the whole thing now.

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[info]sdk
2007-10-22 04:58 am UTC (link)
Oh yeah, no worries. I've read so many posts about it my head is spinning and I'm like--well, there was one way to decrease the wank about Neville/Hannah. Everyone's so distracted by Dumbledore!gayness, that hardly anyone is all, Neville/Hannah whut?

And poor Hagrid! Not sophisticated enough for a wife. Where's the defenders of Hagrid?! ;)

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[info]lilithilien
2007-10-22 05:19 am UTC (link)
Yeah, you're right, this is overshadowing all her other wackiness. I've been scratching my head over the Neville/Hannah thing, seeing as they never exchanged two words in canon. IMO, her version of their relationship is as much fanfic as anything anybody else could write.

But the one that really gets me is that now she's saying that there's no magical properties of a life-debt. Which totally contradicts what she had Dumbledore tell Harry back in PoA.

Poor Hagrid. But hey, she was kinder to him than Dumbledore's brother.

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[info]darkrose
2007-10-22 04:08 am UTC (link)
I don't really care much one way or the other, except that it's kind of neat that my initial impressions from DH were correct.

I don't have a problem with her mentioning it, because someone asked her. If she hadn't answered, then people would be bitching about that. And I don't like the idea that once a book is published, an author has no right to comment on it.

I'm probably inclined to cut JKR some more slack on this one because I understand from having massive chunks of backstory that will never, ever be used. Not only is that the way I write, but I'm a Tolkein fan, and a roleplayer. When I create a character, I need to be prepared so that if someone asks my character her favorite color, I have an answer ready. I need to have a reason my Monk/Sorceror has a 17 Charisma.

I don't have a problem with her not saying that Dumbledore was gay because it wasn't important to the story she was telling, and she already had, IMO, way too much extraneous crap in there as it was. Particularly since she was so stuck in Harry's head most of the time, there would have been no way for it to be mentioned without feeling forced, since to Harry, the idea of Dumbeldore having any sexuality would have been weird.

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[info]lilithilien
2007-10-22 04:30 am UTC (link)
re: massive chunks of backstory: I've roleplayed quite a bit, and created original characters too, and so I absolutely do understand the need to flesh out every possible detail about the characters. However, IMO, the form of the novel -- and the skill of the novelist -- depends on what's said within the pages of the book. Like I said above, she def should have that backstory in her head, and hopefully copious pages of notes as well. But a good writer will reveal enough backstory to help the astute reader draw the desired conclusions about the fate of characters. Like you said yourself, you read that Dumbledore was gay.

But I guess everybody has different tolerance levels for what they'll let authors add after the fact. Personally, I've never cared much for authorial intent. Once you put your book (argument/dissertation/brief) out there, I think all you can do is pray that you got what you wanted to say across.

there would have been no way for it to be mentioned without feeling forced, since to Harry, the idea of Dumbeldore having any sexuality would have been weird

Heh. Very good point. I could see lots of "HE'S WHAT? GAY?" dialogue, with poor Minerva called to give Harry a much-belated birds-and-bees talk. Yes, probably best that was avoided!

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[info]seleneheart
2007-10-23 04:58 am UTC (link)
I just rolled my eyes at her. Of course he is!

Now, do us all a favor and reveal that you were just kidding with the epilogue. No? Then shut up.

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